Further thoughts on this would be helpful. He described finding Marines who had been literally skinned alive by the Japanese in later island fighting, and admitted killing Japanese POWs in retaliation. [AlanM1(talk)] 12:37, 17 July 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]. Warren Kozak writes in the Wall Street Journal, "The Real Rules of War," Dec. 23, that his father, who survived the Battle of the Bulge, told him that I don't see this as accurate or fair. Mr. Durning, my gratitude and utmost respect go out to you. Does anyone think that we should request the page to be locked? No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Let's discuss the editing here please. 398th Infantry Regiment; part of the 100th Infantry Division, 3. Web#VeteranOfTheDay Army Veteran Charles Durning - VA News Todays #VeteranOfTheDay is Army Veteran Charles Durning, who served as an infantryman during World War II and Being a fellow member of The Screen Actors Guild with Mr. Durning, I hope one day to meet with him again. So, too, were many U.S. soldiers who had done battle in the Pacific, where the Japanese treated U.S. POWs with casual brutality. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Rlevse Talk 03:28, 9 November 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply], i'm confused because it seems that three purple hearts are claimed, but only two instances of being wounded are cited. 7. NEW YORK (Reuters) - Charles Durning, a World War Two hero who became one of Hollywoods top character actors in films like The Sting, Tootsie and The Best By late fall, the sixty-five Allied divisions operating in northeastern Europe were facing vital supplies shortages, especially of fuel, and their offensive had sputtered to a halt. But it should be possible to ask them whether they have kept a record of this speach. Forty-three of them, including Peiper, were sentenced to die by hanging, twenty-two to life imprisonment, and the rest to ten- to twenty-year sentences. But then another German unit came by and those Americans who could speak German heard a lieutenant in this unit give the order: Machte alle Kaput! Kill the Americans. He continued to act almost until his death. Born: 28-Feb-1923 Birthplace: Highland Falls, NY Died: 24-Dec-2012 Location of death: New York City Cause of death: unspecified. Fighting in the Battle of the Bulge, he and the rest of his company were captured and forced to march through a pine forest at Malmedy, the scene of an infamous massacre in which the Germans opened fire on almost 90 prisoners. Seeing Americans fleeing, a machine gun on the back of a halftrack opened up, cutting down those who stood in the field and those trying to escape. That way, instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it is I wrote down, I spend the time looking for the paper I wrote it down on. The "confusion" regarding Mr. Durning's service is far more extensive than has been touched on here. For whatever reason, Battery B proceeded along its designated route until it came to a crossroads about 2.5 miles (4 km) east of Malmedy, which the Belgians called Baugnetz but the Americans referred to as Five Points, because five roads intersected here. 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Not all of the presumed guilty could be punishedboth Major Poetschke and Sergeant Beutner died in action during the war. There are links to articles on the medals with pictures of them there. Durning's unit guarded German POW's in Krippe, Germany until after VE Day, June 23, 1945. IMDb is not considered to be a reliable source since it is mainly user-edited - just like Wikipedia. Please take a moment to review my edit. Also, in block 55, "ASR Score (2 Sep 45) 61"? 03 Apr 2023 01:55:49 Some of them had placed their hands on their helmets in a casual token of surrender to the Waffen-SS troops of Kampfgruppe Peiperthe mechanized task force commanded by the brilliant young German Colonel Jochen Peiperas it passed by, but beyond that they seemed remarkably unconcerned. Division. Bubblehead, do Mr. Durning's record throw any light on this point? 6991 Guard Company. Is Archaeology Due for a Sexual Revolution? [5]. The area around Five Points was so hotly contested that it was not until nearly a month after the massacre, on January 14, that the U.S. army was able to recover the bodies of the 84 men who had been killed in that field. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it." . However, immediately after the massacre occurred and well before the bodies were recovered, the news quickly spread through the GIs fighting for their lives in the Ardennes. WebRT @MexHistorian: Charles Durning was a veteran of WWII. In 2002 he appeared with Mr. Pacino in an Off Broadway production of Bertolt Brechts Resistible Rise of Arturo Ui. At Lincoln Center in 2005 he was the senile father of a college professor (Dianne Wiest) in Wendy Wassersteins Third.. I wondered which of the two Ranger BNs he had served with during the Normandy Invasion. It's entirely possible that Durning (or someone on his behalf) asked for (and obtained) corrections to the original records in the time since his discharge, explaining the additional awards in the 2002 summary and the letter from 2008. The French government apparently issued a statement mentioning Malmedy, but the closest I can come is this[1]. --rogerd 12:35, 27 December 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply], I will put an {{NPOV}} template at the top of the page. The Battle of the Bulge was the largest battle ever fought in the history of the U.S. infantry and one of the bloodiest battles of World War II, which was the most costly war in human history. Blacks later book, The Battalion: The Dramatic Story of the 2nd Ranger Battalion goes into more detail about the 2nd Ranger Battalion. And there's the weakness in Wiki; the burden of proof should be on those making assertions of fact; instead, Wiki gives credence to unsubstantiated, possibly self-serving claims made by individuals, that are only bolstered by second and third hand retellings of that same man's stories. Stetsonharry (talk) 22:26, 30 January 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply], There was some discussion a few months ago about whether or not Durning was a survivor of the Malmedy massacre. - John Stuart Mill. Their hatred of the enemy was such, I swear, I could not always keep it under control.. Charles Durning, right, with Dustin Hoffman, in a scene from Tootsie in 1982. If his ordinary-guy looks deprived him of leading-man roles, they did not leave him typecast. This area covered the rugged and desolate Ardennes Forest and was mountainous and remote. The current article, which avoids all discussion of these questions of fact, appears dedicated to burnishing and protecting his image, which seems a POV violation. Unfortunately, the vast majority of Mr. Durning's 'war record' merely consists of his own assertions (which varied greatly over the years) or retellings of his assertions, as understood or embellished by others. Furthermore one should keep in mind that all survivors to the massacre, i.e. Perhaps one reason for the attention paid to the Malmedy Massacre is that many Americans at the time, including, possibly, those of Battery B standing in the field that day, thought that, against the Germans at least, they were fighting a civilized war with adversaries who shared the same racial heritage as thousands of GIs.
WebWhen beloved actor Charles Durning died on Christmas Eve, journalists unanimously praised the actor's storied war record. As this killing was going on, the German column continued to pass through Five Points, and soldiers on halftracks chatted and pointed. They clearly violated the Geneva Conventions and "were technically guilty of war crimes.". WebTIL That the late character actor Charles Durning, who was a WWII veteran, was not only the sole survivor of a unit during the Normandy invasion but was one of only three men to http://news.yahoo.com/durning-king-character-actors-dies-nyc-075353360.html, Sca (talk) 14:53, 25 December 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply], While the article notes there appears to be some confusion at Durning's war record (which unit he was with at any particular moment etc), I think the Third Army [art needs to be clarified. It's a shame he is not more forthcoming; such vagueness merely arouses suspicion. As you know, that is a critical difference. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. Jochen Peiper never reached the Meuse, his much-sought-after goal. Worse, the 398th's own regimental history of its participation in WWII has a list of all its medal awardees; Mr. Durning is not listed as earning any medal of any kind with that unit. 2. Most of them attempted to make their way back to Malmedy, some wandering for days before they returned. - Are we supposed to believe - as some accounts hold - that after being levied out of the 386th AAA (AW) Bn, after being sent to Normandy as a replacement, after being wounded and after spending five months in a hospital recovering, that Mr. Durning returned back to the very same 386th AAA (AW) Bn he joined in '43? Time is always important in military operations, but in the Ardennes in December 1944, it was the most crucial factor that Peiper, and by extension the entire Wehrmacht, faced. And on the morning of December 17, the second day of the German attack, he was a frustrated man. Charles Durning, who overcame poverty, battlefield trauma and nagging self-doubt to become an acclaimed character actor, whether on stage as Big Daddy in Cat on a --rogerd (talk) 02:58, 15 March 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply], I had the priviledge and honor to meet Charles Durning some years ago, when I was on The Los Angeles St. Patrick's Day Committee, and we made him "Grand Marshall" for the parade in Hollywood. Then came World War II, and he enlisted in the Army. Anyone have any further information??? Two million men fought for three months in Normandy in 1944. After the war, still mentally troubled, Mr. Durning dropped into a void for almost a decade before deciding to study acting at the American Academy of Dramatic Arts in New York, he told Parade magazine in 1993. [AlanM1(talk)] 23:36, 28 December 2012 (UTC) (Edited 23:39, 28 December 2012 (UTC))Reply[reply], Oldbubblehead (talk) 23:42, 16 April 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply], I have received a copy of Durning's military records from the National Archives. Just because someone else makes a statement about the subject of this article, doesn't mean that it deserves mention here. Durning does not appear in either the muster reports or morning reports of any of the units involved. Snow blanketed the little towns, vacation chateaus, and deep forests of the area. The offhand behavior of the roughly 115 U.S. prisoners may have been because the men came from Battery B of the 285th Field Observation Battery. at Frances (disambiguation). This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 18 January 2022). The soldiers of SS-Panzerregiment 1 who did the shooting took great care to ensure no witnesses remained, but as at Wormhoudt (also LSSAH), Le Paradis (SS-Totenkopf-Division) & L'Abbe Ardenne (SS-Pz.Gren.Regt.-25) there were always some who lived to testify against the perpetrators. He looks VERY different than he did since O Brother, Where Art Thou?has he had some sort of stroke or heart attack or some kind of palsy that's affected his speech? I realize that one will oppose the statement of the French consul. [Durning] was among the first soldiers to land on the Normandy beaches during the D-Day invasion of June 6, 1944, wrote The Washington Post. In Belgium he was stabbed in hand-to-hand combat with a German soldier, whom he bludgeoned to death with a rock. While Oldbubblehead's research apparently verifies the Silver Star, the issue will not be put to bed until the GO (with its citation extract) can be located. Not because I wuld think that Mr. Durning did not do his duty during the war. Charles Edward Durning (February 28, 1923 - December 24, 2012) was an American actor, with appearances in over 200 movies, television shows and plays. He went from job to job, from doorman to dishwasher to cabdriver. WebSix survivors of the Malmedy atrocity return to the field where SS troops of the First SS Panzer Division shot and killed 86 unarmed American soldiers on December 17, 1944. Many of the astonished and terrified Americansa large number of them cooks and clerkspicked up rifles and fought back, while some threw away their arms and immediately ran away. With the greatest of secrecy, aided by winter weather that kept Allied planes on the ground, he assembled a huge force of 250,000 men, 1,400 tanks, and 2,000 artillery guns on the eastern edge of the Ardennes. The book focuses (in training and in combat) on experiences, actions, emotions, and hardships of ordinary Gis. Some fired into already dead Americans, as if to practice their aim. Is it him, or someone who really looks like him? Of course all those who have writen on that massacre have emphasised one or other point of view according to their preference: som tried to whitewash the Germans others of course have pointed out how bestial they have been. He spent months in hospitals and was treated for psychological trauma. 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Not all of the presumed guilty could be punishedboth Major Poetschke and Sergeant Beutner died in action during the war. There are links to articles on the medals with pictures of them there. Durning's unit guarded German POW's in Krippe, Germany until after VE Day, June 23, 1945. IMDb is not considered to be a reliable source since it is mainly user-edited - just like Wikipedia. Please take a moment to review my edit. Also, in block 55, "ASR Score (2 Sep 45) 61"? 03 Apr 2023 01:55:49 Some of them had placed their hands on their helmets in a casual token of surrender to the Waffen-SS troops of Kampfgruppe Peiperthe mechanized task force commanded by the brilliant young German Colonel Jochen Peiperas it passed by, but beyond that they seemed remarkably unconcerned. Division. Bubblehead, do Mr. Durning's record throw any light on this point? 6991 Guard Company. Is Archaeology Due for a Sexual Revolution? [5]. The area around Five Points was so hotly contested that it was not until nearly a month after the massacre, on January 14, that the U.S. army was able to recover the bodies of the 84 men who had been killed in that field. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it." . However, immediately after the massacre occurred and well before the bodies were recovered, the news quickly spread through the GIs fighting for their lives in the Ardennes. WebRT @MexHistorian: Charles Durning was a veteran of WWII. In 2002 he appeared with Mr. Pacino in an Off Broadway production of Bertolt Brechts Resistible Rise of Arturo Ui. At Lincoln Center in 2005 he was the senile father of a college professor (Dianne Wiest) in Wendy Wassersteins Third.. I wondered which of the two Ranger BNs he had served with during the Normandy Invasion. It's entirely possible that Durning (or someone on his behalf) asked for (and obtained) corrections to the original records in the time since his discharge, explaining the additional awards in the 2002 summary and the letter from 2008. The French government apparently issued a statement mentioning Malmedy, but the closest I can come is this[1]. --rogerd 12:35, 27 December 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply], I will put an {{NPOV}} template at the top of the page. The Battle of the Bulge was the largest battle ever fought in the history of the U.S. infantry and one of the bloodiest battles of World War II, which was the most costly war in human history. Blacks later book, The Battalion: The Dramatic Story of the 2nd Ranger Battalion goes into more detail about the 2nd Ranger Battalion. And there's the weakness in Wiki; the burden of proof should be on those making assertions of fact; instead, Wiki gives credence to unsubstantiated, possibly self-serving claims made by individuals, that are only bolstered by second and third hand retellings of that same man's stories. Stetsonharry (talk) 22:26, 30 January 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply], There was some discussion a few months ago about whether or not Durning was a survivor of the Malmedy massacre. - John Stuart Mill. Their hatred of the enemy was such, I swear, I could not always keep it under control.. Charles Durning, right, with Dustin Hoffman, in a scene from Tootsie in 1982. If his ordinary-guy looks deprived him of leading-man roles, they did not leave him typecast. This area covered the rugged and desolate Ardennes Forest and was mountainous and remote. The current article, which avoids all discussion of these questions of fact, appears dedicated to burnishing and protecting his image, which seems a POV violation. Unfortunately, the vast majority of Mr. Durning's 'war record' merely consists of his own assertions (which varied greatly over the years) or retellings of his assertions, as understood or embellished by others. Furthermore one should keep in mind that all survivors to the massacre, i.e. Perhaps one reason for the attention paid to the Malmedy Massacre is that many Americans at the time, including, possibly, those of Battery B standing in the field that day, thought that, against the Germans at least, they were fighting a civilized war with adversaries who shared the same racial heritage as thousands of GIs.
WebWhen beloved actor Charles Durning died on Christmas Eve, journalists unanimously praised the actor's storied war record. As this killing was going on, the German column continued to pass through Five Points, and soldiers on halftracks chatted and pointed. They clearly violated the Geneva Conventions and "were technically guilty of war crimes.". WebTIL That the late character actor Charles Durning, who was a WWII veteran, was not only the sole survivor of a unit during the Normandy invasion but was one of only three men to http://news.yahoo.com/durning-king-character-actors-dies-nyc-075353360.html, Sca (talk) 14:53, 25 December 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply], While the article notes there appears to be some confusion at Durning's war record (which unit he was with at any particular moment etc), I think the Third Army [art needs to be clarified. It's a shame he is not more forthcoming; such vagueness merely arouses suspicion. As you know, that is a critical difference. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. Jochen Peiper never reached the Meuse, his much-sought-after goal. Worse, the 398th's own regimental history of its participation in WWII has a list of all its medal awardees; Mr. Durning is not listed as earning any medal of any kind with that unit. 2. Most of them attempted to make their way back to Malmedy, some wandering for days before they returned. - Are we supposed to believe - as some accounts hold - that after being levied out of the 386th AAA (AW) Bn, after being sent to Normandy as a replacement, after being wounded and after spending five months in a hospital recovering, that Mr. Durning returned back to the very same 386th AAA (AW) Bn he joined in '43? Time is always important in military operations, but in the Ardennes in December 1944, it was the most crucial factor that Peiper, and by extension the entire Wehrmacht, faced. And on the morning of December 17, the second day of the German attack, he was a frustrated man. Charles Durning, who overcame poverty, battlefield trauma and nagging self-doubt to become an acclaimed character actor, whether on stage as Big Daddy in Cat on a --rogerd (talk) 02:58, 15 March 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply], I had the priviledge and honor to meet Charles Durning some years ago, when I was on The Los Angeles St. Patrick's Day Committee, and we made him "Grand Marshall" for the parade in Hollywood. Then came World War II, and he enlisted in the Army. Anyone have any further information??? Two million men fought for three months in Normandy in 1944. After the war, still mentally troubled, Mr. Durning dropped into a void for almost a decade before deciding to study acting at the American Academy of Dramatic Arts in New York, he told Parade magazine in 1993. [AlanM1(talk)] 23:36, 28 December 2012 (UTC) (Edited 23:39, 28 December 2012 (UTC))Reply[reply], Oldbubblehead (talk) 23:42, 16 April 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply], I have received a copy of Durning's military records from the National Archives. Just because someone else makes a statement about the subject of this article, doesn't mean that it deserves mention here. Durning does not appear in either the muster reports or morning reports of any of the units involved. Snow blanketed the little towns, vacation chateaus, and deep forests of the area. The offhand behavior of the roughly 115 U.S. prisoners may have been because the men came from Battery B of the 285th Field Observation Battery. at Frances (disambiguation). This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 18 January 2022). The soldiers of SS-Panzerregiment 1 who did the shooting took great care to ensure no witnesses remained, but as at Wormhoudt (also LSSAH), Le Paradis (SS-Totenkopf-Division) & L'Abbe Ardenne (SS-Pz.Gren.Regt.-25) there were always some who lived to testify against the perpetrators. He looks VERY different than he did since O Brother, Where Art Thou?has he had some sort of stroke or heart attack or some kind of palsy that's affected his speech? I realize that one will oppose the statement of the French consul. [Durning] was among the first soldiers to land on the Normandy beaches during the D-Day invasion of June 6, 1944, wrote The Washington Post. In Belgium he was stabbed in hand-to-hand combat with a German soldier, whom he bludgeoned to death with a rock. While Oldbubblehead's research apparently verifies the Silver Star, the issue will not be put to bed until the GO (with its citation extract) can be located. Not because I wuld think that Mr. Durning did not do his duty during the war. Charles Edward Durning (February 28, 1923 - December 24, 2012) was an American actor, with appearances in over 200 movies, television shows and plays. He went from job to job, from doorman to dishwasher to cabdriver. WebSix survivors of the Malmedy atrocity return to the field where SS troops of the First SS Panzer Division shot and killed 86 unarmed American soldiers on December 17, 1944. Many of the astonished and terrified Americansa large number of them cooks and clerkspicked up rifles and fought back, while some threw away their arms and immediately ran away. With the greatest of secrecy, aided by winter weather that kept Allied planes on the ground, he assembled a huge force of 250,000 men, 1,400 tanks, and 2,000 artillery guns on the eastern edge of the Ardennes. The book focuses (in training and in combat) on experiences, actions, emotions, and hardships of ordinary Gis. Some fired into already dead Americans, as if to practice their aim. Is it him, or someone who really looks like him? Of course all those who have writen on that massacre have emphasised one or other point of view according to their preference: som tried to whitewash the Germans others of course have pointed out how bestial they have been. He spent months in hospitals and was treated for psychological trauma. 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