Initially, he was shocked. He told us that He is our ONLY Teacher Matthew 23:8-10; and the 5 fold ministry He has gifted to His Body, is Him, so let us seek His understanding to find out who are those of Him and those who are false 5 fold ministers.. Because they have slowly over time been taught and have become habituated to WIERDSVILLE !!!! There is NO RECORD of what Jesus did SPECIFICALLY in those 40 days. Read my updates https://z3news.com/w/february-losses-part-ii/#comments. So what does it look like when you have a whole congregation full of demons, principalities, powers, rulers of wickedness, familiar spirits, witchcraft practicioners.and then the Glory of God comes to set people free all at once? Ultimately, God has to show this to you, not me. Hi LoriQ, I couldnt believe it either. Its not just a matter of someone professing correct doctrine with their lips, but an indwelling of the Holy Spirit such that, when it acts through us, people are brought to repentance, recognizing Jesus as Lord. I do not consider any of the miracles Jesus did in any way wierd. Read this article: http://www.chirobase.org/06DD/activator.html. I say Thank God that He is NOT a comfortable little idol that fulfills mankinds desires, dreams, and PERFORMS according to mankinds EXPECTATIONS. But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard of it, they tore their robes and rushed out into the crowd, crying out and saying, Men, why are you doing these things? 1) to put to flight by terrifying (to scare away) Other christians have told me I cant discern what is true and what is wrong, and that what I received that wonderful day of salvation is not of God. There is a MIXTURE that has always been christianity. Last week we published a video of an old friend of mine, Torben I love HIM even more. There are believers like me who are VERY cynical about some guy on the internet who claims to be able to heal people like this gentleman is doing. He was (and is) one of Todd Bentleys biggest supporters. The next 15 years he and his wife served God with spreading the Gospel and church planting in different cities around Denmark. to become the type that accuses first and asks questions later. James Bailey is a blogger, business owner, husband and father of two grown children. To me when I was less aware of how He is working through my brothers and sisters was when I put Him in a box more, thinking that He used everyone pretty much the same. In the book of Acts we see many situations of water immersions or baptism. None of them literally follow Matthew 28. By its fruit you will know whether the tree is good or bad. The companies were formed over a eight month period with the most recent being incorporated seven years ago in June of 2015. I just cried watching the video. You missed the entire divine point and purpose of the video- to show that Jesus still uses ordinary , humble, weak nobodies to do his marvelous works. Amen Jonathan, Amen Lord come Lord Jesus through Your Church to demonstrate Your Gospel the Power of Your Gospel to the world , namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation. Each person has their own homemade version/definition of what that means. Read what Jesus Christ had to say (RIGHT FROM HIS OWN LIPS) about it here: Mar 9:38 KJV And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils IN THY NAME, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. Jesus is 100% God but He also was and is and always will be a very easy and normal MAN and to live with. There is even scripture that says some were casting out demons, and the disciples wanted it stopped yet Yeshua says that they who were for them were not against them and to leave them alone. To reveal Christ to us in Revelation, there are 330 references to the figures, shadows, types, patterns, persons & buildings of the Old Testament. I just watched the original video after reading and watching the second video. You strain a gnat an swallow a camel! Chas351 God has not changed, He still does miracles as signs following the gospel, and praise Him for it! The Bible is replete with verses about this (some of which I pointed out in m previous post). It has scripture and some Biblical things, but it also has a lot of mixture which includes new age positive thinking and pyschosomatic techniques. Or has it being ongoing amongst everyday people since He was sent to indwell those whom God draws to Himself..? Jesus is coming soooooon, His return is imminent. To me, he is one of the few preachers If I and others who believed and prayed and were filled, which christian would rebuke this? And was that not also SLANDER? I believe we are moving In a Direction where everyone is going to say Truly God has visited us! I believe we will see believers so full of Gods spirit walk into a Veterans hospital and heal every amputee and solider who has lost a limb or body part. Trenton- thanks for your question regarding whether Jesus ever copied one the the worlds methods or tricks they are good questions. Agreed Andrew.avoid those who 2Tim3v5,,,,have a form of godliness but deny the power.we need miracles and healings etc .and oh how we need discerning of spirits to get delivered from the power of darkness and lazy religious demons.. Jesus hasnt changed! (Luke 22: 51) Go Torben . Thats what I said..manifesting His tangible Presence AND HIS NATURE. How will you ever recognize Jesus if you cant recognize him in these videos? If someone cant just agree that that is what we do as we follow Jesus then they must be going their own way. 1) to fear, be afraid Bob Jones is the guy who told Todd Bentley about Emma the angel. Because he wants to give us the more. If he performs miracles and preaches a false gospel of self effort religion, harsh treatment of the body , self imposed religiosity and legalism INSTEAD OF THE FAITH IN THE CROSS PLUS NOTHING THAT MAN IS A WOLF! I love that statement you said, `the simplicity that is in Christ.` Were the Hebrews experiencing New Age phenomena in the wilderness? It is not a judgment nor an accusation, we have seen so little of the body of Christ functioning in the many various giftings that we dont know the difference any more. Jesus tempered the enthusiasm of the disciples by saying not to rejoice in the demons submitting to us but to only rejoice that our names be written in the Lambs book of life. His ministry recently came under attack by the Danish government, which launched investigations by six different government agencies. The man removed the wooden leg and stood before Seymour standing on his one good leg. He is an independent agent creating his own kingdom of the world, presenting it as the Kingdom of God. I just read 1 Kings 18. Christs Kingdom is under the control of Jesus and all who are in it obey Him. He came back to Houston a broken and disillusioned man. We need to be discerning in love, yet remain true to Gods Word. And when man USES these things, that is witchcraft. Sean, son your spirit is so not in tune with Jesus Hearts cry. Of course not. Seymour didnt preach that night. Because His glory/presence is departing (Holy Spirit is grieved). We are living in a dark age where sin and selfishness have been taking over the church. Unfortunately, all we have to test the spirits with is the video. . Only God knows. No I dont regret calling it a sad reaction. The MANIFESTATIONS of demons are NORMAL when people are praying for DELIVERANCE AND CASTING THEM OUT. : of strange or extraordinary character : ODD, FANTASTIC, Antonyms I have heard the context of that statement explained by Bill Johnson in one of his sermons, He clearly stated in that sermon that Jesus is God and then he said that Jesus didnt perform His miracles as God but as Man, He explained that he was making the point and he was very clear on this in his sermon that we as born again believers can do empowered by the Holy Spirit the same miracles which Jesus completed while He was on earth as Jesus wasnt using His Divinity to perform those miracles but was performed them as a surrendered Man to the will of God, i.e. WebTorben is a preacher, teacher, and author who was born in 1976 in Herning, Denmark. Dont forget Old testament where the axe head raised up out of the water, and poisoned waters were made drinkable. Rom 14:23 KJV And he that DOUBTETH is damned if he eat, because [he eateth] not of faith: for WHATSOEVER IS NOT OF FAITH IS SIN. Maybe its just a different expectation outside that makes it more likely to see results. Thank you for your `now,` perspective in the Lord, sister. Squashers of joy, and those who make light when someone says theyve been healed by Gods power, would rather remind the church about the warning that many will heal in His Name and do works in His Name and expect entrance into heaven, and Jesus will say, Depart, I never knew you. You are mistaken in assuming when Jesus lengthens a mans leg that He copying the world my friend. All I was doing was pointing out that the video evidence alone doesnt prove what it purports to prove. His reply? Thats it. Although not perfect, Andrew is not afraid to call out those who are preaching a false gospel, and that is something I respect him for and have supported him for. He had a bout with fear as the guards told him he would spend a long time in prison and then be deported, the fate of virtually all the inmates at ICEs Baker County Facility in Florida. Waoh! However, I dont perceive any self motivation from Torben. To your credit, you were honest and admitted as such. He does not require us to do anything for Him, but on the contrary, works through us to do His will, and pleasure. Annie Marie..Watching a video now, it is Uploaded on You Tube but also saw the heading on an alternative news, Say 2032 is indeed the Lords return,the vicious woman might be elected President in 2028? And, do you understand why that might be a bad thing to do? Youve asked if I obey everything that Jesus tells me to do. How can anyone with a sound mind say that In Jesus and the apostles day their miracles were accompanied by this nascent WIERDSVILLE? I believe that our God is a might God who is 100% sovereign over everything, including life and death. TheDude, telling us you are being humble and gracious REAKS of self-righteousness . Ezekiel 10, 11, and 12 were recently given to me by God, and your, Bittrex US is closing its doors by April 30. What the gentleman from Denmark is doing can to very easily be confused with the frauds and charlatans who claim to have healing ministries. In fact, they should welcome any such testing. Barry do you (or anyone else.?.) In addition to a film crew, the reporters secretly sent two undercover reporters to infiltrate the ministry, claiming they wanted to become Christians. Thats not me even mentioning all the weird things that happened while I was at his school for 2 months before I left. That is a result of a lack of intemacy with our Lord!!!! Seems that every time the Lord does something through someone, that is when the enemy wants to come in and steal kill and destroy, that which He has done. In whatever FORM God deems necessary for the people to BELIEVE that He exists and that He is GOOD/can be TRUSTED. a) to seek to promote ones interests Years ago The Lord said there would be no more one man doing all the ministry but the sheep ministering to the sheep, one on one! This Youtube clip is titled How to Remember the 5 Fold Church Ministry and is part of a longer teaching by Sondergaard, titled Reformation of the Church System . Christs church is not some debate club and we must then try to win the debate. No, because man can not do these things, lest God be in us. God They will be, Perfect! People being raised from the dead, people who were truly lame from birth given the power to walk, people who were 100% blind being able to see, etc. `to go forward into the `true` thing.`. Its sad that christians would mock other christians and claim they cannot discern the false from the truth when it comes to their personal walk with the Lord. For us to think we can do anything apart from God, means we have cut ourselves off from Him. stayed in his home and spent time with his family. I found this with water immersion in the Name of the Lord. I also believe, and this falls in line with the Wilkerson article, that a specific outpouring is coming where the miracles of God are going to be so manifest and evident and powerful that no one will ever be able to deny them. I too have been badly wounded and burned by previous fakes and deceptions- thats no excuse for cynicism. Jim makes a very good point. uncanny implies disquieting strangeness or mysteriousness . This is the understanding that GOD gave me, it is not of myself because I didnt have a clue. Initially, he was shocked. believe this authentic move of the Holy Spirit is only recent..? Marilyn. 1) to be struck with fear, to be seized with alarm Look at all the healings in the NT. Therefore, when the scripture talks about bringing GLORY to the Lord; GLORIFYING the Lord etc etc Never used any other exchanges but bittrex and cb. God plants us as good seed WHERE HE WANTS US IN HIS FIELD- then we simply let Jesus shine out from us and people in the fields around us come running. But there are some who do have shortened legs and corresponding back problems. Does anyone know whats happened to Randall Lowrey? Daniel Pontious So Jesus said Greater things would we do after He went to be with His father. Only God is holy and only God can and will do His holy works in and through us. Three things are clear about Sondergaard, based on a five-minute video clip from one of his teachings. Ample scriptures indicate that they will appear as ministers of the gospel, not ministers of the enemy. In order to post comments, please make sure JavaScript and Cookies are enabled, and reload the page. This move of God will not be among a hyper spiritual exclusive fringe group of religiois zealots but will be among the grassroots culturally mainstream families among regular moms and dads, children, marketplace workers, friends and nieghbours . So the real test is that you will react to something the way Jesus wants you to react, and you are unable to do that if you dont always listen and obey. he was encouraging the early church to return to the FIRE OF GOD thay had when the church was BORN IN ACTS 2 after the preaching of Gods word lifting up Jesus and the Father sent the Gift as promised. barryrschmidt@gmail.com, You know friends I totally get and appreciate both sides of the questioning miracles argument. We strive like Paul towards the prize of the High Calling in Christ Jesus. A new Spirit-one that is more interested in making men thrilled and exhilaerated than in making men holy and heavenly minded and a new hope a hope in this world and in this age- where believers will rule and reign in this present dark age rather than the blessed hope the glorious appearing of The Lord Jesus Christ from heaven and the hope in the life to come which declares , if for this life only we have hope we of all men are to be most pitied .. I just said, Lord I surrender to Thy will in this household.. I would love to talk to people who are also victims, who had a bad experience with it, or whatever. The next 15 years he and his wife served God with spreading the Gospel and church planting in different cities around Denmark. 430 talking about this. They actually believe what they are doing is through the power of the Holy Spirit. Dont get into a RUT and EXPECT the Holy Spirit to work in the same way He did the last time you noticed Him working. Guess most like the overblown antics that most of todays healers/preachers do. I prevail upon all here not to fall into the ways of the world and engage in these ad hominem attacks. Indeed we are one body, a living organsim, having one head (Lord Jesus), with the body having many diverse members, each with differing giftings and callings, as determined by the one Holy Spirit. His ministry recently came under attack by the Danish government, which launched investigations by six different government agencies. In January 2019, Torben, his family and work they were doing atThe Jesus Centerbecame the target of what appeared to be a coordinatedeffort to shut down his ministry. Arrested NOT for Gun Smuggling, but for no-visa & fake Asylum - to be deported to Denmark. 2 Thess. It could be miracles, signs, and wonders. 1)God is Who HE SAID HE IS. Then what am I crying for? Show me an authentic video of that happening with the person healed repenting and declaring Jesus as Lord; then Ill agree that the Spirit has met the test and passed. Why have we not seen this? Arrested NOT for Gun Smuggling, but for no-visa & fake Asylum - to be deported to Denmark. ALL flesh is susceptible, ALL flesh. You have no clue what biblical testing is, Do you obey Jesus and do all that He tells you to do? Joseph Mercola Wheres the beef in WIERDSVILLE ? God said for us to acknowledge him in all our ways and he will direct our paths. Id take issue with just one thing the gifts of healings are for the common good of both the Body of Christ (the context of 1 Corinthians 12, 13, and 14, and the public at large (where the Apostle Paul also was used of God for healing, prophecy, and so on). The deaf were healed and the lame walked right on camera. Rather than analyse Try it you will like it!!! He believes he is a self appointed apostle with a Last Reformation belief system. 1) to fear, revere, be afraid hesitate) to do something (for fear of harm) 3) to fear, reverence, honour, respect In all the videos, I dont see evidence in those being healed of being brought to repentance and an acknowledgement of Jesus as Lord. OH HOW MUCH EASIER IT IS TO BELIEVE A BOOK, THAN A REAL LIVE PERSON! In fact, doesnt it say that we most certainly shouldnt do that, and then call it of God? If legs are lengthened, I say, Halleluia and thank you Jesus. If you dont believe that my testing of the spirits is being done in a biblical manner, then maybe you could suggest what you believe would be a proper biblical way to test the spirits. I am also sad to report that I knew a man whose wife was dying of cancer.
The bogus so called leg lengthening trick pulled off by the magicians is THE COPYCAT -never the other way around. Seymour replied, Im just upset because you have the wooden leg on. The fight the pioneers are feeling in this hour. But I guess thats what powerless religion us all about. Again I see Torbens ministry as very specific as it relates to showing the wonders and love of God to non-believers in the street. In 1995, he committed his life to Christ and felt God calling him to ministry.
It could be the GLORY Face like Moses manifested. Warning: Use of undefined constant - assumed '' (this will throw an Error in a future version of PHP) in /home/oeogzb4nyt2z/public_html/revivalschool.com/wp-content/themes/picture-perfect/single.php on line 14. Sectarians are those who would make fellowship with Christ their exclusive privilege. We might want to consider the other side, that the Holy Spirit allowed this to get Torben out of tiny, insignificant Denmark and into a much wider global ministry, for which he is more than qualified. That is a hard material and so leaves me to see that God broke His own commands, not Moses.
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How do you know it was not the Lords followers who called each other Christian since the text doesnt say???) Those who want to be deceived will be deceived. That was 25 years ago and it never went back. Torben himself said we NEVER feel anything, but didnt Jesus feel something when the power of God flowed from Him into the woman who had the issue of blood? It is Christ that God would have us focus on & not trying to prove that it is all history. c) (Piel) to make afraid, terrify We can learn from Torbens mistake by keeping our guards up at all times. Sometimes it is our fear for anothers situation which prompts intercession, the sharing of warnings, admonishments or what-have-you. I am so full of matter about how the church today is so cynical. and also WITH the author of Hebrews. Jhn 17:15 NASB I do not ask You to take them out of the world, but (I ask You) TO KEEP THEM FROM THE EVIL ONE. Glasgow Prophetic Centre How about an ordinary man/woman telling people that they saw and went into HEAVEN and saw all these different many headed beasts and angels and chariots of fire? I said, You got him? We have to go